Thursday, February 17, 2011

Saving faith...


If faith doesn't take human effort (works!) to exercise to keep it from failing, then it can't fail, correct?  So one cannot lose one's salvation, correct? One cannot "walk away" from Christ, correct? 


Exactly, faith does not take human effort.

Romans 4:5
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

You do not have to do anything to have faith. To believe God's Word is literally the only thing that a person can do without doing anything!

Romans 10:17
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

You can believe God right where you sit or stand without moving a single muscle. You do not have to say a prayer, nor walk and aisle, etc.  Hearing does not require any effort.

As far as whether someone can walk away from Christ?  Yes, a member of the Body of Christ can choose to not listen to His Word (through Paul) anymore—and sadly, many stop listening to Him. They are called vessels of dishonor in scripture.

2 Timothy 2:19-21
Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.  But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.   If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified , and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

But just because they "walk away" from Him does not mean that they will lose their salvation…

Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:  not of works, lest any man should boast.

Titus 3:5
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

…because our salvation is not based on what we do or don't do, it is based on His faithfulness to himself.

Galatians 2:16
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Philippians 3:9
And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

Once we trust Christ, the Spirit of God places us [by baptism of the Holy Spirit] into His Body, we become His, and nobody can separate us from Him.

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Ephesians 1:13
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

A saint who walks away, that is, stops listening to his Master's Word, will not lose salvation, but will lose his reward!

1 Corinthians 3:15
If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

1 Corinthians 1:8-9
Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.  God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.

Philippians 1:6
Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

2 Timothy 2:13
If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.



Hopefully this helps...Maranatha!

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A good idea...

This isn’t a question, but I did want to thank you for the exhortation to read verses as many as 30 times to get them to sink in. Good idea!


Yes, I tell people to read verses over and over so that they will sink deep within their spirits and understanding. I do that all the time and still continue to grow speedily.


Hopefully this helps...Maranatha!

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Everybody has a chance

If a person does not know of the gospel of the dispensation of grace and they die, where will they go? To heaven or hell?


Your question is confusing because nobody dies and goes to hell before God gives them plenty of opportunity to trust the Lord Jesus Christ! So no one will ever die and go to hell without first being given a chance to trust Christ. The only people who go to hell are those who are presented an opportunity to trust Christ and reject Him in their own unbelief.

Romans 1:18-20
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.  For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

2 Thessalonians 2:10-12
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.  And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:   That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


Hopefully this helps...Maranatha!

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Living together...

Can a man and a woman who plan to marry live together yet not sleep together in the same room?

Yes it is possible, but also extremely difficult, especially if they have sexual feelings for one another! They might as well go and get married right away at the courthouse or justice of the peace to be right before God morally, and before man legally, and then hold a public ceremony for their family and friends.

2 Corinthians 8:21
Providing for honest things, not only in the sight of the Lord, but also in the sight of men.

1 Thessalonians 5:21-22
Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.  Abstain from all appearance of evil.

Hopefully this helps...Maranatha!

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A saint who walks away…

You once said “a saint who walks away, that is, stops listening to his Master's Word, will not lose salvation, but WILL lose his reward!”   This seems to adhere to the 5th point of Calvinism--the perseverance of the saints. But how far will you take this declaration of yours? Can a born-again believer commit the sin of murder of an innocent? Now, if he can and does such an act, does he lose his salvation? If so, must he repent before he can gain back his salvation?


Calvinism in non-sense!

I adhere to the sound doctrine of our Apostle Paul, God's spokesman for us today, found in His Word! So I take eternal life as far as Paul takes it, which is throughout eternity FOREVER! We did nothing to be saved, but believe, so there is nothing that we can do to lose our salvation.

Romans 4:4-5
Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.  But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

God says in His word that even when a believer stops believing, God remains faithful to us!

2 Timothy 2:13
If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

Our focus needs to be on His faithfulness, not our performance!  So even, like in your example of “a member of the Body of Christ committing murder,” he still does not lose his salvation! Murder was just one sin of many which our Lord died for. 

And for those of us who trust Him—that He died for us on the Cross—all of our sins were paid for, even the sins that we will commit in the future!  (Remember, all our sins were future from Calvary, including murder!) 

That is God’s grace!!


Hopefully this helps...Maranatha!
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Sonship Edification

If we believe not...


In 2 Timothy 2:13, isn't Paul speaking about unbelievers?

2 Timothy 2:13
If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.


Because Paul says "we," which includes himself, 2 Timothy 2:13 cannot refer to an unbeliever.  

He is talking about believers who stop believing the Lord's words as given through Paul, the apostle in this dispensation of grace. Even if they choose to, the Lord remains faithful because they are members of His body. Therefore, He cannot deny Himself.

Ephesians 5:30
For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

He cannot deny Himself!


Hopefully this helps...Maranatha!

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Apostles and Prophets...or Prophets and Apostles

What difference is there between the Bible's phraseology of "prophets and apostles" versus "apostles and prophets?"

The difference between using "prophets and apostles" versus "apostles and prophets" is that the former is used in reference to Israel's/Earthly/Prophetic program, and the latter is used in reference to God's program with the Body of Christ/heavenly/Mystery program.

So with that said, look at that word "heaven" in this verse.

Revelation 18:20
Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.

Notice that the focus of this verse has to do with heaven, where these "holy apostles and prophets" now are. As you also know, the book of Revelation is a prophecy that will take place in the future, even future from where we now are in history. By the time this verse is fulfilled, all of us in the church, the Body of Christ, will already be Raptured up into Heaven.

So I believe that God is talking specifically to members of the Body of Christ, in particular those early apostles and prophets, originally given to edify the Church while Paul is finishing writing his epistles.

Ephesians 2:20
And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

 Some of these early men in the Body were killed like Paul was, and in this context, God will finally avenge their murders.

2 Thessalonians 1:6-8
Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;  And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,  In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Also notice that God mentions these "heavenly" people earlier in the book...

Revelation 12:12
Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

So in my study of these verses, I believe that God is talking about men in the Body, particularly, men who were early members in the beginning, who are now in heaven, and still will be when these verses are fulfilled.

Hopefully this helps...Maranatha!

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