Wednesday, April 25, 2012

The Spirit Beareth Witness


I have a friend who has struggled for years with being sure that she is saved.  One reason is this verse:

Romans 8:16 
The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

She believes that she should be hearing something or feeling something that is proof that the Holy Spirit is testifying to her that she is saved.  Could you please explain what that verse means so that she won't be waiting for something that is just not going to happen?


The reason your friend has struggled for years with being sure she is saved is because she doesn’t rightly divide the word of Truth.  One of the verses I like to show people who have this issue is:

Romans 6:23

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift [you must focus on that free gift] of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

It is simple yet profound.  I just ask them, “What is the gift of God?” “What type of life?” “Eternal?”  How long is eternity?  “Forever?”  Then I show them:

Romans 11:29

For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

When God gives a gift, he doesn’t change his mind; he doesn’t take it back.  There are many verses to support that truth like…

Romans 5:1

Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

2 Timothy 2:13

If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

1 Corinthians 12:13

For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Ephesians 2:8-9

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

That eternal life, that salvation, is a gift of God!

Colossians 2:13

And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

But they have to be willing to listen to our Apostle Paul thoroughly.  And speaking of that in regard to our verse Romans 8:16…

Romans 8:16 
The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

…you are right to say that she is waiting for something that will not happen.  She will not hear or feel something that will prove that the Holy Spirit is testifying to her spirit.

It says that the Spirit (capital S) ‘beareth witness with our spirit’ (not with our flesh), but it is not something that we will hear audibly, nor feel.  It is a spiritual thing.

1 Corinthians 2:9-11

But as it is written, Eye hath not seen [you can’t see it], nor ear heard [you can’t hear it], neither have entered into the heart of man [it isn’t something that even the soul of a man would grasp from a human viewpoint], the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.  But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.  For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

The Spirit of God operates within our spirit and it is a spiritual thing.  In other words, you won’t feel or hear it.  But what is Paul talking about in Romans 8:16?  Look at Romans 8:14 and 15.  These verses work together and it is very simple.

Romans 8:14-15

For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God [he is talking about walking in the Spirit and not after the flesh]. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

Now in the context notice what Paul is saying.  In Chapter 7 he was speaking to Jews in the body of Christ in Rome who know the Law.

Romans 7:1

Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?

The Law is what Paul calls the flesh.

Galatians 4:24

Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.

The law was bondage and condemnation.

Romans 6:14

For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

But that is not the Spirit that God has put us as grace believers under.

Romans 8:15

For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear;…

That was the Law (the operating principle that Jews were under in Time Past) that performance-based, fear-based, acceptance system.

…but [contrast] ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

What is that?  We are no longer children under tutors and governors.  Paul uses the title Abba, Father which has to do with our sonship status before Almighty God.  It is mentioned three times in the Bible:

Mark 14:36

And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.

This is Christ during his passion in the garden.  It is laboring with the Father; that close, intimate relationship with “Daddy.”  It is more than just a relationship with him; it is also laboring with Him.  The Lord Jesus says in this verse that he is going to labor with the Father in Israel by going to the cross.  We have that same privilege.

Galatians 4:1-7

1Now I say [talking about the human economy], That the heir [see Romans 8:17], as long as he is a child [a minor], differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;

A man would have a son, but as long as his son was a minor he was no different than the servant although he was lord of all.  He was his father’s son; he was going to gain the inheritance.  The status of being a child represents being under the Law.

 2But is under tutors and governors…

He is the father’s son, but he is still under tutors and governors that have to teach him and tell him what to do and not to do – that represents the Law.

…until the time appointed of the father.

He is not going to be under tutors and governors (types of the Law) forever.  The father will appoint a time when he will become an adopted son.

 3Even so we, when we were children [Paul is dealing with Jews who understood this issue of the Law], were in bondage under the elements of the world:

Notice that in time past these Jews were under the bondage of the Law—the same thing that Paul says in Romans 8:15.  These two passages go together.  Tutors and governors were to put fear in the child.  They were to put them in bondage.

 4But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, 5To redeem them that were under the law,…

Notice that when Christ came, the purpose was to redeem them that were under the Law.  We (Jews and Gentiles in the body of Christ) gain the benefits of the cross work of Christ.

[why?] that we might receive the adoption of sons.

We are full-grown sons; we are no longer children.

 6And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. 7Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.

Paul is dealing with the issue that we are no longer under the Law, but now we are under Grace.  Now let’s go back to Romans 15.

Romans 8:15-16

For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.  The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

That is what Paul was just saying in Galatians 4.  How does the Spirit bear witness with our spirit that we are the children of God?  It is through the Word of God.  It is through the word of God!  “Hearing” is not an audible voice; it is hearing the word of God’s grace.

Romans 10:17

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

That is how the Spirit beareth witness – through the Word of God.  ‘eth’ on the end of a word means ‘continual.’  The Spirit continually bears witness that we are the children of God.  How do we know that?  By reading (receiving/believing) Paul’s epistles.  We just read that in Galatians 4.  God’s Spirit wrote that information through the Apostle Paul.

Galatians 4:4-7

But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.  And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.  Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.

How does the Spirit bear witness to that?  Through the words that were written.

1 Corinthians 2:9-13

 9But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

Left on our own, humanity cannot know these things.  Why?  Because of sin.  The unregenerated human hearts of lost men, and even saved men who are in the flesh and do not know the Word of God, do not know these things.  Watch what Paul says:

 10But God hath revealed [past tense] them unto us by his Spirit:…

This is the same thing as ‘the Spirit bearth witness with our spirit.’

…for [further explanation and amplification] the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

What are the deep things of God?

 11For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him?...

The reason I can communicate with you from another state is because you can listen to the words that I say - words are spiritual.  Remember what the Lord Jesus said:

John 6:63

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

The word of God is a spiritual thing.

 …even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

No man can know the things of God, but the Spirit of God does and He communicates them to us.

 12Now we have received, not the spirit of the world [Romans 8, Galatians 4], but the Spirit which is of God;…

He gives us His Spirit and the Word that the Spirit wrote.  That is how He beareth witness.  Why did God give us His Spirit?

… that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

That includes eternal life and all the things that come along with the Mystery, the Grace of God.  How do we know ‘beareth witness’ is words?

 13Which things also we speak,…

Your friend is right.  She should be hearing something.  If her feelings follow the words of grace that she hears, praise the Lord!  But feelings aren’t the issue here.  ‘Feeling something’ needs to go; but hearing (not an audible voice out of nowhere) preaching of Jesus Christ according to the revelation of the Mystery is the issue.

not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; [how does the Holy Ghost teach?] comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

Again, if these are things that are spoken, what would the Apostle Paul want to be spoken?

Romans 16:25-26

 

 Now to him [God] that is of power to stablish you [God is going to stablish you from the inside out; He is going to build you up.] according to my gospel [how that Christ died, was buried and rose again – Paul’s Gospel], and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

So she has to hear a constant preaching of Jesus Christ according to the revelation of the mystery – the things of God’s grace; the doctrine of Paul.  As she needs to take in that doctrine and allow God to build that up in her through the preaching of Grace preachers.  Preaching is an important part of our job as Grace preachers, but also as Paul says:

1 Timothy 4:16

Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.

Those who listen to good, expository Grace preaching (the preaching of Jesus Christ according to the revelation of the mystery; what God says through Paul in Romans through Philemon and the rest of the Bible when rightly divided) will be built up.  That is how the Spirit beareth witness.

The way the Spirit beareth witness with our spirit that we are the children of God is by what He has written down through Paul.  And He tells us the blessings that come with being the children of God through Paul’s epistles.

Acts 20:32

And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace,…

This is what we speak – the word of His grace.

…which is able to build you up,…

This is the establishing.

…and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified.

That comes after salvation and is based upon your work.  God’s will is that all men be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth (1 Timothy 2:4).  Sanctification also comes from a constant intake of sound, Pauline doctrine.  We talk about the word of his grace, the mystery of Christ…

Ephesians 3:8

Unto me [Paul], who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach [Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery] among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;

…the Spirit of God whom we have living in us as believers the moment we trust Christ…

Romans 5:5

…the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

…beareth witness with our spirit through words

John 6:63

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

…the words that the Holy Spirit wrote through Paul in Romans through Philemon.  It is the word of God.




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Tuesday, April 17, 2012

No Second Chance


If 2 Thessalonians 2:10 is saying that after the rapture no Gentiles will be given a second chance, will the tribulation saints [those who become believers after the rapture] all be Jewish?

2 Thessalonians 2:10 - 12 

And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.  And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:   That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

 

 

Paul, our apostle, is dealing with what is going to happen in the future.  In 1 Thessalonians he is telling the saints to stay strong as they endure the sufferings of this present time for believing the message of God’s grace.

2 Timothy 3:12 

Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

 

They were enduring persecutions and afflictions.  They believed God’s word through Paul:

1 Thessalonians 2:13 

For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us [Paul, Timothy and Silas], ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

 

So these saints at Thessalonica that Paul established in Acts 17 followed the Apostle Paul and persecution came to them from Satan and those he energized to withstand the grace of God.

In 2 Thessalonians, Paul is dealing with the issue of the 70th week of Daniel and the time of Jacob’s trouble - that future tribulation period, that future time of God’s wrath.  The saints were being bombarded with false doctrine [like the church does today] about the fact that they would have to go through the tribulation period.  Men who did not rightly divide the word of truth were coming and trying to get these saints to believe that the Day of Christ was at hand:

2 Thessalonians 2:2-3

That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.  Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

 

That day of Christ in context is the Lord’s wrath.  He is reminding them that he told them they were not appointed to that wrath.

1 Thessalonians 5:9 

For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

 

1 Thessalonians 1:10 

And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

 

But Paul does go into detail in 2 Thessalonians [particularly chapter 2] about that future day.  That’s the context.

So who are those in 2 Thessalonians 2:10 who will not have a second chance?  It will be anyone [primarily Gentiles, but also Jews] who has had a clear presentation of the gospel of God’s grace in this present dispensation of grace.  In other words, those who were exposed to the truth—that being, a clear testimony from Almighty God about their sin, judgment for it before God, and the answer which is in Christ’s death on the cross.  If they reject that truth they will not get a second chance.

2 Thessalonians 2:8-9   

And then shall that Wicked [the Antichrist] be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:   Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

 

This is dealing with the Antichrist and the context of this passage has to do with the Middle East.  The stage is being set for the last days of the nation of Israel in the future.  God is not fulfilling Bible prophecy outside of Paul’s epistles now, but God has a timetable for humanity.  There is a focus on the Middle East in the world today - so much talk about Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan.  Why so much focus on the Middle East in particular?  Because the last days of Prophecy before the Lord Jesus returns will be centered in the Middle East – the land of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.  That land mass is now inhabited by the Muslim nations which surround Israel, and it is the land involved in the Kingdom of God where he will live.  It includes Egypt, parts of Africa, Iraq and what is called Palestine.

2 Thessalonians 2:10
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

Again, the context is the Middle East and the nation of Israel.  We have to remember that when Paul was writing this very early in his ministry, God was still dealing with the Jewish people with a ‘provoking’ ministry.  Although he was not offering them the Kingdom anymore, He was offering them the opportunity to become members of the body of Christ as Paul was.  Through Paul’s ministry among the Jewish people in the Middle East, including Thessalonica, God says:

Romans 11:14 
If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.

The church started in the Jewish synagogues where Paul would preach.

Acts 17:1-2 
Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where was a synagogue of the Jews: And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,

I want you to remember that the focus is on the Middle East, but when Paul was there with them there were both Jews and Gentiles.  Let me be clear, when I say “post-rapture Gentiles”, I should use the Bible definition - anyone who rejects the truth will deal will this man, the Son of Perdition. 

But in our day in America the same thing holds true.  It is clear from these verses in 2 Thessalonians that anyone, both Jew and Gentile, who has had a clear testimony of the Gospel of God’s Grace [only God knows who that is and he will be the final judge], will not be given a second chance by God. 

Let me qualify that because there are some people on earth even in our day who have not been given a clear testimony about the Lord Jesus Christ.  For example, many of the Muslim nations don’t even allow Bibles.  Some are smuggled in, but it is against the law under the threat of death.

There are people on earth who have never been exposed to the truth of the Lord Jesus Christ.  God gives them light [Romans 1] and they must respond to that light; but I am saying that there is a policy of evil to stamp out the Gospel of the Grace of God. 

2 Corinthians 4:4 
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

There are those who ‘believe not.’  They receive the light but they don’t believe it.  But there are others who, for whatever reason, have been kept from the doctrine of grace by their family or culture for generations [i.e. Muslims and Jews].

There will be Jews in the land of Israel whose families have been kept in darkness for centuries about who Jesus Christ really is.  They don’t see Him like the Jews did in the first century.  Some believed that Jesus was their Messiah; some believed Paul’s gospel.  Now, for the most part, Jews reject the Lord Jesus Christ as Messiah and Saviour.

So there will be people who have never been properly exposed to the Lord Jesus Christ.  God will deal with them on His own terms - whether they die in their sins in this dispensation, or if they are given a chance to hear the truth after the dispensation of grace has ended.  Most of them will be Jews [again the focus is on the Middle East] because God will be dealing with the Jewish people at that time.  And then through the Jews, when Christ sets up his earthly Kingdom, others [Gentiles] will hear.

It is difficult to pinpoint every detail because this is all future.

2 Thessalonians 2:10 
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

There will be people who perish out there in the future.  The focus is mainly on the Middle East in this passage, even though the same principle applies to the anywhere in the world if a person has received and rejected a clear presentation of the gospel of grace in this present dispensation.  For that person the day of salvation [2 Corinthians 6:2] will be over.  Why?  Because ‘they received not the love of the truth that they might be saved.’  Just like in Christ’s day:

John 1:11 
He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

So anyone, Jew or Gentile, who has been exposed to the Gospel of Grace before the Rapture will not be given a second chance and this is what God will do:

2 Thessalonians 2:11
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion [through the Antichrist], that they should believe a lie:

They didn’t want the truth so God will give them a lie.  Why?

2 Thessalonians 2:12
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

The words ‘perish’ and ‘damned’ are used and believe me, those are not good words.  Those are words that say there will be no second chance.

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Regarding the second part of your question, “Are the tribulations saints, those who become believers, all Jewish?” 

No.  Just like in time past, the focus will be on the Jews; but just like when God brought Israel out of Egypt and there was a mixed multitude that included some Egyptians and others who believed His Word, and like all throughout the history of the Jewish people, there has been a small remnant of ‘strangers’ [Gentiles who wanted to be blessed by the God of Israel through Israel].  If they were circumcised and kept the Law, they were a part of Israel.  Uriah the Hittite is an example [2 Samuel 11:3].  In the book of Esther many in that land became proselyte Jews because of the fear of the Jews.

So the tribulation saints will be mostly Jewish, but there will be Gentile proselytes.

Acts 2:10 
Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome [Jews were strangers in Rome], Jews and proselytes [Gentiles who became Jews],


Hopefully this helps! 
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Thursday, April 12, 2012

Spiritual Resurrection Bodies


Will the type of body that we receive (that is, resurrected, spiritual, heavenly bodies) be like Jesus’ resurrection body in which he could talk, walk and eat here on earth?  Will we use our resurrection bodies here on earth, in heaven or both?



That’s a fantastic question.  Go with me to 1 Corinthians 15 where our Apostle Paul deals with this issue of the physical, bodily resurrection, particularly of our Lord Jesus Christ and they who are in Christ at his coming [1 Corinthians 15:23].  In verse 35 Paul deals with the objections of some regarding the type our resurrection bodies will be.

1 Corinthians 15: 35-49

35But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?

Paul is talking about the physical, resurrection body and he is anticipating objections from what he calls ‘thou fool.’

36Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

He is telling them to look at nature.  He will show them from nature how the resurrection will happen exemplified by a seed that is buried in the ground.  The symbolism of burying someone who dies is the anticipation of resurrection.

37And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:

When you sow a seed in the ground, the body of that seed is not the same as the body that comes from the seed.  For example, a cornel of corn or wheat will produce a stalk.

38But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.

Although you plant a seed in the ground it will grow with a different type of body as God chooses.

39All flesh is not the same flesh [here on earth]: but there is one kind of flesh of men [our physical bodies], another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.

All these are living creatures on earth with difference types of flesh.

40There are also celestial [heavenly] bodies, and bodies terrestrial [terra firma – earthly]: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

Celestial bodies are in the heavens and terrestrial bodies are on the earth.  But the glory of these bodies differ.

41There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.

Even in the heavens there are different types of glory.

42So also is the resurrection of the dead….

If you can understand all the differences in the types of flesh on earth and the different glory associated with each, and the differences in types of heavenly bodies and their glory, then you will understand the difference in glory of resurrection bodies.

42So also is the resurrection of the dead.  It [the dead body of a human] is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:  43It is sown in dishonour [There is no honor in a dead body.  It is unclean.]; it is raised [resurrection of the dead to life] in glory [It is glorious.]: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:  44It is sown a natural body;…

When a believer dies, his body is corrupted, dishonourable, weak and natural—the body he was born with.  But…

… it is raised a spiritual body….

So at the resurrection of the body of Christ (that is, the rapture - our blessed hope Titus 2:13), even those of us who are alive and remain, will have changed bodies that are spiritual.  We will all have spiritual resurrection bodies.

…There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

The natural body is the one we now possess; the spiritual body is the one we will possess.

Philippians 3:20-21

For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:  Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

Our bodies will be spiritual and glorious like the Lord Jesus Christ’s.

1 Corinthians 15:45-47, 49
45And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

He’s showing the difference between Adam and our Lord Jesus Christ.

46Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

First you have to have a natural body; but then you will have a spiritual body.  First there was Adam (natural); then there was Christ (spiritual).  Our bodies now bear Adam’s image; but one day they will bear Christ’s image.

47The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.  48As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy [Adam and all humans]: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

As the Lord is, one day we will be also.

49And as we have borne the image of the earthy [Adam], we shall also bear the image of the heavenly [Christ].

So yes, our resurrection bodies will be exactly the same type as Christ’s and we will walk, talk and eat as He did after he was resurrected.  Paul shows us that here in 1 Corinthians 15 and in Philippians 3.

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Regarding your second question about whether we will use our spiritual resurrection bodies here on earth, in heaven or both - our primary position and sphere of influence is in the heavenly places.

Ephesians 2:6 

And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

 

But that doesn’t mean that we will be confined or limited to heaven.  If we want to come down to this earth in our spare time to visit David, Abraham, or any other saint in the earthly kingdom, we will be able to just as our Lord will come down to earth.  We will be serving the Lord in his Kingdom in the heavenly places, but we will also be permitted to come to earth to talk with people face to face.

Right now the Lord Jesus Christ is in heaven in his spiritual resurrection body and he will come down to earth in that body.  Therefore, we will also be able to go back and forth between heaven and earth, as do angels which are ministering spirits.

Hebrews 1:14 

Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?




Hopefully this helps!

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